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I thought I’d retire in a cottage of sponsored hybrids before some Model 3 with a defective out-of-warranty powertrain came into my LAB. A failure caused by mechanical damage to the battery case at high speed on the highway. On the road, the driver picked up a piece of metal (not an n47 chain) with the right front wheel, which hit and broke the battery case in an area where it can’t even be seen behinde wheel liner. After a month of driving, due to the penetration of moisture, water, rain and other leaking oils (Punto, Passat, Golf…) the Alert that 400v is touching chasis came on, in practice called “Iso fault”. After starting the warranty process at the authorized service center because the hole was not visible, after additional checks and almost replacing the battery in the warranty, a problem was noticed and the warranty was rejected. Mechanical damage of any kind is not part of the warranty!!! There is a tolerance of case bending to the inside up to 8mm, but case penetration and water ingress are not part of it. The preliminary estimate for the battery change is €11,800, which is cheaper than the 651, n47, n57, b47, 654 diesel engines, but certainly too much for anyone to give up on that much money at once. Our task was to solve the battery without dismantling, patch the hole and dry the closed battery without taking it off the car… that means absolute improvisation and tool making with solving the problem 100%. First, we opened the umbrela valve vents on the battery, which has 2, then we made an artificial heated “greenhouse” around the battery and an irradiation system to extract moisture. We let the system run for 14 days for 10 hours to heat the case to 48 degrees while the rest of the “cooker system” does its job to extract moisture. After 2 weeks of labor Isolation returned to 4.8Mohm before and after the contactor… that means the battery is finally saved. However, repeated isolation breaches have left the security system in a locked state with error BMS_a027, an error that, with its number 027, oozes trouble as it is a FATAL FLAG (latching alert) to protect the system from further or larger problems. It limits the system permanently and the service ToolBox does not have a function like for Model S and X, which is called “ISO Counter Reset”, this time for Model Y and 3 this function has been moved to the Tilburg refurbish battery center where the battery repair team resets on the bench via CAN BUS. We solved the problem and the consequences, but now the most difficult part remains, how to clean the firmware safety system. We work for the first time, we read the processor for the first time, which fortunately does not have a locked JTAG, and we look for the HEX FLAG in the sea of data. After a few hours of work, we cleared the FLAG, redeployed the system again and BMS removed the error. VOILA, the battery was solved and the owner was saved by a 3rd party solution for the first time in the world. It means another example, that it is not necessary to change the entire battery, but to solve the problem in segments.
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Tesla Model 3 LR – NEISPRAVNA BATERIJA NIKAD SE NE MIJENJA CIJELA – Mislio sam da ću otići u mirovinu u vikendici sponzoriranih hybrida prije nego mi dodje neki Model 3 sa defektnim pogonom izvan garancije. Kvar koji je uzrokovan mehaničkim oštećenjem baterijskog kućišta pri većoj brzini na autocesti. Vozač je na cesti pokupio desnim kotačem komad metala (nije n47 lanac) koji je lupio i razvalio kućište baterije u zoni gdje se ne vidi ni na dizalici jer bas tu pokriva PVC wheel liner. Kroz mjesec dana vožnje zbog penetracije vlage, vode, kiše i ostalog ulja (punto, passat…) upalila je se greška da 400v probija na šasiju, u praksi zvan “Proboj izolacije”. Nakon započete garancije u ovlaštenom servisu jer rupa nije bila vidljiva, nakon dodatnih provjera i skoro pa zamjene baterije u garanciji uočen je problem i garancija je odbijena. Mehanička oštećenja bilo kojeg oblika nisu dio garancije!!! Postoji tolerancija udubljenja kućišta do 8mm ali proboj kućišta i voda nisu dio toga. Predračun za izmjenu je 11800€ što je jeftinije od 651, n47, n57, b47, 654 i ostalih nikad ništa motora, ali svakako prevelika svota za bilo koga i čega. Zadatak nam je bio da riješimo bateriju bez demontaže, zakrpamo rupu i osušimo zatvorenu bateriju… znači apsolutna improvizacija i izrada alata a da se problem riješi 100%. Prvo smo otvorili oduške na bateriji koji ima 2, zatim smo napravili umjetni plastenik oko baterije i sustav ozračivanja za izvačenje vlage. Sustav smo pustili da radi 14 dana po 10 sati da zgrije kućište na 48 stupnjeva dok ostata “pastenika” radi svoj posao. Nakon 2 tjedna izolacije se vratila na 4.8Mohm prije i poslje kontaktora… to je to baterija spašena. Medjutim uzastopni proboj izolacije je ostavio sigurnosni sustav u zaključanom stanju sa greško BMS_a027, greška koja svojim brojem 027 odiše problemom jer je to FATAL FLAG da zaštiti sustav od daljnjih ili većih problema. Limitira sustav trajno i servisni ToolBox nema funkciju kao za Model S i X koja se zove “ISO Counter Reset” ovaj put za Model Y i 3 ta funkcija je preseljena u Tilburg refurbish battery centar gdje ekipa koja reparira baterije resetira na stolu preko CAN BUS. Mi smo riješili problem i posljedice ali sad je ostao najteži dio, kako očistiti firmware safety sustav. Prvi put radimo, prvi put čitamo procesor koji sva sreća pa nema zaključan JTAG i tražimo HEX FLAG u moru podataka. Nakon par sati posla očistili smo FLAG, napravili redeploy sustava opet i BMS je maknuo grešku. VOJLA, baterija je riješena i vlasnik spašen 3rd party riješenjem po prvi put u svijetu. Znači još jedan primjer, da nije potrebno mjenjati cijeli bateriju već riješiti problem u segmentima.
Errors: BMS_a027 , BMS_f027, BMS_w027, BMS_a170 Part number: 1104423-00-N, 1106394-01-H, Processor: TMS320LS , SPC5746CSMKU6 1N84S Tesla OEM: 11800€ (inc VAT) EV Clinic pricelist: *diesel is cheaper – 69000€ *hybrid is better – 96000€ *ev is better – 1200€
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Previously, who missed the fact that certain renowned manufacturers from 2020 have electric motors already at 30,000 km and they are not under warranty, here we have a completely different example where a Renault Zoe with a 22kwh battery, 10 years old, outside of all warranties with a defect in the electric motor, believe it or not, comes to us from Mercedes this STILL drives 200,000 km. The owner showed his trust, brought Zoe on wheels so that we could at least try for the first time in the workshop to solve the starting Continental electric motor that buzzes under braking and at most speeds. The removal procedure is a bit longer, everything has to be disassembled from the electronic modules and half-shafts in order to lower the engine through the lower opening on the bridge (subframe). We disassembled the engine and the condition was quite bad. The engine would soon squeal all the way through the bearings and smash itself through the housing with torque. Here, the differential oil is full of foam, burnt and all the bearings are damaged. As on the Mercedes EQV, here the “transmission parking lock” made up stupidity transferred from the fossils caused the same problem. The hammering of the engine brake lever from the rotor broke the bearing in the housing and the bearing housing itself in the differential cover. The dosjed was so broken that the bearing completely rotated in the housing and burned the dosjed and warped part of the surface. Bearings are readily available, commercial and almost all but two on the output differential. The manufacturer used for the bearings was Koyo. Now let’s moisten the diesel fans and their bearings a little, here it is evident that the oil in the differential needs to be changed (so not in the electric motor) in order to possibly prevent the bearings from wearing out due to oil splatter and contamination, it takes about 0.9l 75W. But the parking lock EV killer is still there to make your life miserable. The recommendation for changing the oil is about 100,000 km. And even without that, this Zoe is indestructible and recommended by EVC as a second vehicle for the city.
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I finalno … Renault Zoe 2014 Q210
Prethodno tko je preskocio kako odredjenim renomiranim proizvodjacima iz 2020 godine odlaze elektromotori vec na 30000km i nisu u garanciji, ovdje imamo totalno drugi primjer gdje nam dolazi Renault Zoe sa 22kwh baterijom star 10 godina izvan svih garancija sa defektom elektromotora koji vjerovali ili ne vi iz Mercedesa ovaj JOŠ vozi na 200000km. Vlasnik je ukazao povjerenje, dovezao Zoe na kotačima da bar probamo po prvi put u radioni rijesiti i taj start Continental elektromotor koji zuji pod otprecenjem i na vecin brzinama. Procedura skidanja je malo duža, sve se mora naprijed rastaviti od elektronskih modula i poluosovina da bi se motor spustio kroz donji otvor na mostu (subframe). Motor smo rastavili i stanje je bilo poprilično loše. Motor bi ubrzo zacvikao skroz na lezajevima i razvalio sam sebe obrtnim momentom kroz kućište. Ovdje je ulje diferencijala puno špene, spaljeno i svi lezajevi oštećeni. Kao i na mercedesu EQV ovdje je “transmission parking lock” izmisljena glupost prenešena sa fosilaca napravila isti problem. Zakucavanje poluge kočenja motora od rotor je razbila lezaj u kućištu i samo kućište ležaja u poklopcu diferencijala. Dosjed toliko razvaljen da je ležaj kompletno vrtio u kućištu i spalio dosjed i potokario dio površine. Ležajevi su lako dobavljivi, komercijalni i skoro svi osim dva na izlaznom diferencijalu. Proizvodjača za lezajeve su koristili Koyo. Sad da malo navlažimo dizel fanove i njihove desanke, ovdje je evidentno da je potrebna izmjena ulja u diferencijalu (znaci ne u elek motoru) kako bi mozda sprijecili trosenje lezajeva zbog špene i kontaminacije ulja, ide ga oko 0.9l 75W. Ali parking lock EV killer je i dalje tu da vam zagorča život. Preporuka za izmjenu ulja je oko 100000km. A čak i bez toga ovaj Zoe je neunistiv i preporuka EVC kao drugo vozilo za grada.
Smart 453 EQ – A Costly and Challenging Repair Landscape
After extensive testing and repeated analysis, we have found that this vehicle presents some of the most complex and costly repair challenges in recent automotive history. Many critical components are integrated in such a way that even minor malfunctions require the removal of the entire electric powertrain—a time-consuming and expensive process.
For instance, if the DC-DC buck converter (which charges the 12V battery from the high-voltage system) fails, accessing it requires dismantling a significant portion of the vehicle, including 350 bolts, cables, connectors, and covers. However, what makes the situation more problematic is that, instead of replacing just the defective component, the standard repair procedure at authorized service centers involves replacing the entire drive unit at a cost of approximately €5,500.
Bundled Replacements & High Repair Costs
If a failure is diagnosed in the DC-DC converter, the entire RLC filter, DC-DC converter, onboard charger (OBC), and VFD inverter are all replaced simultaneously—every time. Similarly, if the onboard charger (OBC) fails, the entire assembly is replaced again because all components are integrated into a single aluminum housing on the electric motor.
No individual component sales: The manufacturer does not offer separate replacements for these parts, making every repair a full powertrain replacement at a minimum of €5,500.
Drive motor issues: We have also observed instances of electric motor failures (buzzing, scraping, rattling, etc.) appearing at approximately 100,000 km, though further analysis is needed.
Warranty limitations: The warranty for these crucial components is only 2 years or 20,000 km, meaning many owners encounter major repair costs early in the vehicle’s lifespan.
Battery Management & Programmed Faults
Beyond powertrain replacements, we have identified multiple recurring issues affecting the high-voltage battery system, including:
BMS hardware failures (serial defect)
Firmware-related BMS errors
Crash lock & counter limitations
Recurring warranty disputes over repair eligibility
Over the past two years, EV Clinic has researched and documented every possible failure mode, as well as all available solutions and repair methods. Unfortunately, these issues significantly impact the reliability and long-term sustainability of the Smart 453 EQ, which otherwise serves as an excellent urban EV.
Industry Trends & Manufacturer Strategy
These challenges are not exclusive to the Smart 453—we have observed similar powertrain issues across multiple electric models from this manufacturer since 2010. While we remain committed to finding sustainable repair solutions, it is evident that these design choices lead to high long-term ownership costs for EV drivers.
Part number: A4533404500, 292A05698R
Error: P0852F1, P085296
OEM Workshop: 5500 euro
EV Clinic: 1500 euro
What we offer:
-Full powertrain disassembly training
-Full DCDC Repair training
-Full OBC Repair training
-Full Drive inverter cloning, programming and repair training
-Full Battery repair training
-Full BMS software reading, writing and programmed defect reset training
Nissan’s careless approach to isolation issues and potential short circuits in their batteries is an engineering disaster waiting to happen, posing an extreme danger to vehicle safety and passengers.
Nissan Leaf 2gen – What can I say except that Nissan, in its efforts to do something under the leadership of Carlos Ghosn, successfully ruined both the first and second generation of the electric pioneer Nissan Leaf. The first time I forgive that they made a scrap battery without active cooling and heating of the cells, but the second time I don’t forgive that the battery is in the service for same reason at 130000km. It was not technology that does not exist, cooling plates and other successful methods of active thermal management. They have already routed the antifreeze pipes to cool the OBC, which means they could also go into the battery. The story also becomes controversial with the authorized service because in an effort to use the owner’s lack of knowledge of the vehicle on a 130tkm vehicle whose battery is still under warranty to force him to change the Onboard charger, which was not the cause at all. The problem is that the OBC on the Nissan Leaf is the most expensive in the world and costs around €7,000-8,000. First, they would charge for the component that is not covered by the warranty, after that, because there is no refund, they would have to search further… but the man would have to spend €8,000 on diagnostics!!! there are cases when you have to change the parts with “artillery halfing” in order to trace the defect, but this is not dificult breakdown of the insulation on the EV. It’s like an oil leak from a Mercedes, you see a spot and look for where it’s leaking from. There is a tool and a method for quite simply searching for ISO defects. After 20 minutes of measurement, it was quite clear to us that the OBC and the rest of the system do not have a problem, but that the problem is with the battery itself. We expected moisture or water inside, but it wasn’t either. The problem literally pierced the eyes, the overheated cells in the rear part of the battery case, which stand vertically, inflated and tore the steel cage, inflated and twisted the individual block case (of which there are 24) so that on 2 blocks the sharp protective sheets themselves pierced through the protective film of the cell and they started to corrode. Not in one but in 2 places, which could also cause a short circuit of two different series and eventually a fire. The lack of active cooling and heating of the battery is a failure of epic proportions on a vehicle that has DC charging, and to do it in two generations of vehicles. Any battery without it is designed to be disposable, non-repairable and certainly a reason to be a reason NOT buying such a vehicle. Nissan is the biggest culprit of eMobility stereotypes such as “the battery is expensive”, “it must be completely replaced”, “it cannot be repaired”. Nissan has done damage to the EV automotive community for the next 50 years with their scrap battery system, their system is the basis of all the stereotypes that have been created in the last 10-12 years, because they are truly correct. Only their battery is impossible to repair, only their battery falls apart at 100tkm, only their battery is the most expensive in the world, only their battery is more expensive than the entire vehicle. Etc, etc, etc. On this vehicle, according to a brief analysis, there was a sudden boiling of the cells because the owner probably charged the Chademo DC fast charger while the battery was cold or even at minus temperatures. The inflating cells damaged the cage and protection until it broke through the insulation. We bent metal sheets and the car is now driving, but the battery is permanently damaged and cannot be repaired, it needs a new one… and it needs to run again at 100,000 km because it was designed that way. We do not recommend the Nissan Leaf for any commercial use as there is no way to amortize the cost of battery failure. Recommendation //do not buy// . For short distances, 1 distance per day or if you drive more with stops, so that it’s not cold or hot, maybe it can last a few more km. Leaf also has the most expensive components in the world. Also in the picture with the cell voltage graph, that’s the battery death curve. The test is done so that at a location where there is a constant uphill, you set the throttle to 80% and keep the load constant for 30-40 seconds (MEASURING IS WRONG IN STANDSTILL). Even under load, you can see the voltage drop, the higher the voltage drop, the worse certain cells are. You put LeafSpy on the screen record and whatch. If you have a “wave” curve, the battery needs to be changed.
NISSAN LEAF – DANGEROUS FACTORY BATTERY SYSTEM ERROR Report: Analysis of Battery Issues in Nissan Leaf Vehicles – RECALL SYSTEM
Introduction: Electric vehicles (EVs) are positioned as symbols of technological progress and sustainable mobility. Considering its pioneering role, the Nissan Leaf should be an example of safety and reliability. However, battery technical issues raise questions about the integrity of this model.
Fundamentals of Electric Mobility – Battery Systems and Nissan’s Failure
a)The central part of every EV is its battery system. However, while most manufacturers have recognized the criticality of this component, Nissan, unfortunately, neglected some key aspects, questioning the safety and reliability of their vehicles. All of their cells on Leaf, Kangoo ZEE and eNV200 are inflating and destroying metal safety cage where cells penetrate battery pack outer sell and reporting P0AA6 external isolation.
b) The quality of Nissan cells and the chemical processes within them are questionable, because all of their system tend to fail above 100k km. While other manufacturers have used high-quality materials and processes, it raises questions as to whether Nissan used subpar components or manufacturing processes that led to a series of issues with their battery systems.
c) Thermal management – Nissan’s significant oversight: Batteries generate heat during operation, and managing this heat is crucial for safety and efficiency. Many manufacturers have implemented sophisticated thermal management systems. Nissan, on the other hand, seems to have not given priority to this critical component, resulting in issues like overheating and battery swelling.
d) Battery system design and integration – Nissan’s incomplete approach: While most EV manufacturers carefully integrate battery systems to optimize performance and safety, Nissan’s problems indicate potential compromises in this critical design aspect. Their battery issues could be a result of poor integration decisions or even the use of cheaper materials and components.
Isolation Breakdown – Nissan’s Inexcusable Failure and Silent Threat to Consumers
a) Any competent company involved in electric mobility understands that isolation is vital for the proper functioning and safety of battery systems. Isolation prevents unwanted current flow and potential short circuits. Nissan’s failure to grasp this basic fact is not only unacceptable but also negligent.
b) How did Nissan allow isolation breakdown? While many manufacturers invest significant resources in ensuring the reliability of battery isolation, it seems that Nissan skipped this crucial phase or, at the very least, took it lightly. Was this an attempt to cut costs or simply poor engineering judgment? The consequences are clear and devastating for vehicle owners and beyond.
c) Consequences of isolation breakdown and Nissan’s negligence: When isolation breaks down, short circuits become likely, which can lead to fires, damage to other components, and potential hazards for drivers and passengers. For Nissan, consciously or unconsciously allowing such problems in their vehicles is not just a design failure but complete disregard for the safety of their users.
d) Ignoring the problem and the absence of corporate responsibility: Based on numerous owner reports, it seems that Nissan often ignores or downplays this problem, leaving owners to deal with the consequences. This behavior not only indicates a lack of corporate responsibility but also complete indifference to loyal users and their safety.
e) Trust issue and Nissan’s future position in the market: With a series of battery problems, Nissan not only loses the trust of existing users but also risks its reputation among potential customers. As the electric vehicle market continues to evolve, Nissan may find that its failures and negligence have resulted in the loss of a crucial market position that may be difficult, if not impossible, to regain.
Environmental Impact and Nissan’s Fall from the Sustainability Pedestal
a) Electric vehicles – the expected symbol of sustainability: Electric vehicles have been presented to the public as a symbol of environmental awareness and a step toward reducing harmful emissions. In simple terms, the transition to electric vehicles should be a key contribution to preserving our planet for future generations.
b) Expectations from Nissan as a pioneer: As one of the pioneers in the EV industry, Nissan was expected to set high standards not only in performance and reliability but also in the environmental footprint of its products. The concept of sustainability is not only related to emissions but also to the durability and reliability of components, especially batteries.
c) The unsustainability of defective batteries: The problems with Nissan’s batteries are not just technical issues. Every defective battery that needs replacement represents an environmental burden. Not only is there a question of the disposal of defective batteries, but also the production of new batteries, which includes mining, transportation, manufacturing, and all other factors contributing to the carbon footprint.
d) Loss of trust and the environmental vision: With battery problems, Nissan has lost much more than just the trust of its customers. It is losing its position as a leader in ecological mobility. This reputational loss can have long-term consequences for the company, especially in a world where sustainability and environmental responsibility have become key factors in consumer decision-making.
e) A change in Nissan’s strategy is needed: Nissan must acknowledge and address these problems not only for ethical reasons but also for its long-term viability in the market. The first step is recognizing the problems and then investing in research and development to ensure that such problems do not recur. Only through transparency, innovation, and a genuine commitment to environmental sustainability can Nissan regain the trust of its customers and become a leader in sustainable mobility again.
f) Conclusion – From pioneer to an environmental concern: Nissan, once a pioneer of the electric revolution, is facing a crisis that strikes at the core of its environmental ambitions. To regain trust and its environmental pedigree, Nissan must act swiftly and decisively to address these issues, providing its customers and the planet with the solutions they deserve.
Necessary Action a) Recall of all vehicles and thorough inspection: It is evident that there is a serious and potentially dangerous factory error with the Nissan Leaf battery system. Considering the safety risks, an urgent recall of all affected models is recommended. b) Long-term solutions and manufacturer responsibility: In addition to immediate fixes, Nissan must reconsider its approach to designing and manufacturing battery systems. Investing in research and development of higher-quality battery solutions is necessary to ensure the safety and reliability of future models. c) Demand for transparency: In light of these issues, greater transparency from Nissan towards its customers and the public is required. This includes openly acknowledging the problems, providing regular updates on the steps the company is taking to address them, and outlining plans to prevent similar issues in the future.
This report confirms the seriousness of the battery problems in Nissan Leaf vehicles and emphasizes the need for urgent intervention to ensure the safety of users and protect the reputation of the Nissan company.
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Nissan Leaf 2gen – Što reći osim da je Nissan u svojim nastojanjima da napravi nešto pod vodstvom Carlosa Ghosn uspjesno upropastila i prvu i drugu generaciju električnog pionira Nissan Leaf. Prvi put oprostim sto su napravili škart bateriju bez aktivnog hladjenja i grijanja ćelija, ali drugi put ne praštam i da je baterija džaba u servisu. Nije to bila tehnologija koja ne postoji, cooling plate i ostale uspjesne metode active thermal management. Oni su vec proveli cijevi antifriza da hladi OBC znaci mogli su i u bateriju. Priča i sa ovlastenim servisom postaje sporna jer u nastojanju da na vozilu od 130tkm kojemu je baterija jos u garanciji iskoristili su nepoznavanje vozila vlasnika da mu nametnu izmjenu Onboard chargera koji uopce nije bio uzrok. Problem je sto je OBC na Nissan Leaf najskuplji na svijetu i dodje oko 7000-8000€. Prvo bi naplatili komponentu koja nije u garanciji, nakon toga jer nema povrata novca morali traziti dalje… ali covjek bi morao potrositi 8000€ na dijagnostiku!!! postoje slucajevi kad se mora ici izmjenom “topnickog polovljenja” da bi se uslo u trag defektu ali proboj izolacije na EV to nije. To je kao curenje ulje iz mercedesa, vidis fleku i trazis odakle curi. Postoji alat i metoda za sasvim jednostavno trazenje ISO defect. Nama je nakon 20 minuta mjerenja bilo sasvim jasno da OBC i ostatak sustava nemaju problem, vec da je problem na samoj bateriji. Očekivali smo vlagu ili vodu u unutrasnjosti ali nije ni to. Problem je doslovno probadao oči, pregrijane ćelije u zadnjem dijelu baterijskog kucista koje stoje vertikalno su se napuhnule i rastrgale celicni kavez, napuhale i pomotale pojedinacna kucista blokova (kojih ima 24) da su na 2 bloka sami oštri zastitni limovi prdrli kroz zastitnu foliju ćelije i pocele nagrizati. Ne na jednom vec 2 mjesta, sto je ujedno moglo izazvati i kratak spoj dvije razlicite serije i na kraju požar. Nedostatak aktivnog hladjenja i grijanja baterije je promasaj epskih proporcija na vozilu koje ima DC punjenje i to napraviti u dvije generacije vozila. Svaka baterija bez toga je osmisljena da bude za jednokratnu upotrebu, nepopravljiva i svakako razlog da bude razlog NEkupnje takvog vozila. Nissan je najveci krivac eMobility stereotipa kako je “baterija skupa”, “mora se kompletna mjenjati”, “ne moze se popraviti”. Nissan je škart baterijskim sustavom napravio stetu EV automotive zajednici narednih 50 godina, njihov sustav je temelj svih stereotipa koji su nastali u zadnjih 10-12 godina, jer uistinu su i točni. Jedino njihovi bateriju je nemoguce popraviti, jedino njihova baterija se raspane na 100tkm, jedino njihova baterija je najskuplja na svijetu, jedino njihova baterija je skuplja od cijelog vozila. Itd itd itd. Na ovom vozilu po kratkoj analizi doslo je do naglog kuhanja celija jer je vjerovatno vlasnik punio na Chademo DC brzi punjac dok je baterija bila hladna ili cak na minus tempersturi. Puhanje motalo kavez i zastitu dok nije probilo izolaciju. Limiće smo vratili i auto sad vozi ali baterija je trajno ostecena i nema popravke, mora nova… i mora opet crknuti na 100000km jer je tako dizajnirana. Nissan Leaf ne preporucamo ni za kakvu komercijalnu upotrebu jer ne postoji nacin da amortizirate trosak kvara baterije. Preporuka //ne kupovati// . Na kratke relacije, 1 relacija dnevno uz pauze ako je vise, da se ne puni hladna a ni vruca, mozda izdrzi koji km vise. Takodjer Leaf ima i najskuplje komponente na svijetu. Takodjer na slici sa grafom napona celija, to je krivulja smrti baterije. Test se radi tako da na lokaciji gdje je konstantna uzbrdica, podesis gas na 80% i drzis konstantno opterecenje 30-40 sekundi. I pod opterecenjem citas pad napona, sto je pad napona veći to su odredjene celije u gorem stanju. LeafSpy stavis na screen record i pratis. Ako imas sisatu krivulju, baterija je za izmjenu.
NISSAN LEAF – OPASNA TVORNIČKA GREŠKA NA BATERIJSKOM SUSTAVU
Elaborat: Analiza Baterijskih Problema na Nissan Leafa vozilima – SUSTAV ZA OPOZIV
1. Uvod:
Električna vozila (EV) postavljena su kao simbol tehnološkog napretka i održive mobilnosti. S obzirom na svoju pionirsku ulogu, Nissan Leaf trebao bi biti primjer sigurnosti i pouzdanosti. No, tehnički problemi s baterijom postavljaju pitanja o integritetu ovog modela.
2. Temelji Električne Mobilnosti – Baterijski Sustavi i Nissanova Pogreška
a) Uvod u baterijske sustave električnih vozila i Nissanov neuspjeh:
Električna vozila (EV) označavaju budućnost održive mobilnosti. Središnji dio svakog EV-a je njegov baterijski sustav. No, dok je većina proizvođača shvatila kritičnost ovog elementa, Nissan je nažalost zanemario neke ključne aspekte, dovodeći u pitanje sigurnost i pouzdanost njihovih vozila.
b) Kemijske komponente i rad baterija – gdje je Nissan zakazao?
Svaka baterija koristi kemijske reakcije da bi generirala električnu energiju. Ali kvaliteta tih ćelija i kemijski procesi unutar njih kritični su. Dok su drugi proizvođači koristili vrhunske materijale i procese, postavlja se pitanje je li Nissan koristio subpar komponente ili proizvodne procese koji su doveli do niza problema s njihovim baterijskim sustavima.
c) Termalna upravljanja – Nissanov veliki previd:
Baterije proizvode toplinu tijekom rada, a upravljanje ovom toplinom ključno je za sigurnost i učinkovitost. Mnogi proizvođači implementirali su sofisticirane sustave za termalno upravljanje. Nissan, s druge strane, izgleda da nije dao prioritet ovoj kritičnoj komponenti, rezultirajući problemima poput pregrijavanja i napuhivanja baterija.
d) Konstrukcija i integracija baterijskih sustava – Nissanov nepotpun pristup:
Dok je većina proizvođača EV-a pažljivo integrirala baterijske sustave kako bi optimizirala performanse i sigurnost, Nissanovi problemi ukazuju na moguće kompromise u ovom ključnom aspektu dizajna. Njihovi baterijski problemi mogli bi biti rezultat loših odluka u integraciji ili čak korištenju jeftinijih materijala i komponenata.
e) Budućnost baterijskih tehnologija – hoće li Nissan pratiti ili ostati zaostao?
S obzirom na stalne inovacije u baterijskim tehnologijama, očekuje se da će proizvođači nastaviti s poboljšanjima. No, s obzirom na trenutne probleme s baterijama Nissan Leafa, postavlja se pitanje je li Nissan spreman pratiti konkurenciju ili će nastaviti donositi kompromise na štetu sigurnosti i pouzdanosti svojih vozila.
Svaka kompetentna tvrtka koja se bavi električnom mobilnošću razumije da je izolacija vitalna za ispravno funkcioniranje i sigurnost baterijskih sustava. Izolacija sprječava neželjeni protok struje i moguće kratke spojeve. Da Nissan nije shvatio ovu osnovnu činjenicu je ne samo neprihvatljivo, već i nemarno.
b) Kako je Nissan dopustio proboj izolacije?
Iako mnogi proizvođači ulažu ogromne resurse u osiguranje pouzdanosti izolacije baterija, čini se da je Nissan preskočio tu ključnu fazu, ili je barem olako shvatio. Je li ovo bila pokušaj uštede na troškovima ili jednostavno loše inženjersko prosuđivanje, posljedice su jasne i razorne za vlasnike vozila i šire.
c) Posljedice proboja izolacije i Nissanova nemarnost:
Kada izolacija popusti, kratki spojevi postaju vjerojatni, što može dovesti do požara, oštećenja drugih komponenata i potencijalnih opasnosti za vozače i putnike. Da Nissan, svjesno ili nesvjesno, dopusti ovakve probleme u svojim vozilima nije samo promašaj u dizajnu, već potpuna nemarnost prema sigurnosti svojih korisnika.
d) Ignoriranje problema i odsutnost korporativne odgovornosti:
Na temelju brojnih izvješća vlasnika, čini se da Nissan često zanemaruje ili umanjuje ovaj problem, ostavljajući vlasnike da se bore s posljedicama. Ovo ponašanje ne samo da ukazuje na manjak korporativne odgovornosti, već i na potpunu nebrigu za vjerne korisnike i njihovu sigurnost.
e) Pitanje povjerenja i budućnost Nissanovog mjesta na tržištu:
Uz niz problema s baterijama, Nissan ne samo da gubi povjerenje postojećih korisnika, već riskira i svoj ugled među potencijalnim kupcima. Kako se tržište električnih vozila nastavlja razvijati, Nissan će možda otkriti da su njihovi propusti i nemarnost rezultirali gubitkom ključne tržišne pozicije koju će biti teško, ako ne i nemoguće, vratiti
5. Ekološki Utjecaj i Nissanov Pad s Pedestala Održivosti
a) Električna vozila – Očekivani simbol održivosti:
Električna vozila predstavljena su javnosti kao simbol ekološke svijesti i korak prema smanjenju emisije štetnih plinova. Pojednostavljeno rečeno, prijelaz na EV-ove (električna vozila) trebao bi biti ključni doprinos očuvanju naše planete za buduće generacije.
b) Očekivanja od Nissan kao pionira:
Kao jedan od pionira u EV industriji, očekivalo se da će Nissan postaviti visoke standarde ne samo u performansama i pouzdanosti, već i u ekološkom otisku svojih proizvoda. Koncept održivosti nije samo vezan uz emisije, već i uz trajnost i pouzdanost komponenata, posebno baterija.
c) Neodrživost defektnih baterija:
Problemi s Nissanovim baterijama nisu samo tehnički problem. Svaka neispravna baterija koja mora biti zamijenjena predstavlja ekološki teret. Ne samo da postoji pitanje zbrinjavanja neispravnih baterija, već i pitanje proizvodnje novih baterija, što uključuje rudarstvo, transport, proizvodnju i sve druge faktore koji doprinose karbonskom otisku.
d) Gubitak povjerenja i ekološke vizije:
S problemima baterije, Nissan je izgubio mnogo više od povjerenja kupaca. Gubi svoju poziciju kao predvodnik u ekološkoj mobilnosti. Ovaj reputacijski gubitak može imati dugoročne posljedice za tvrtku, osobito u svijetu gdje su održivost i ekološka odgovornost postali ključni faktori prilikom odlučivanja potrošača o kupnji.
e) Potrebna promjena u Nissanovoj strategiji:
Nissan mora priznati i riješiti ove probleme ne samo iz etičkih razloga, već i zbog svoje dugoročne održivosti na tržištu. Prvi korak je prepoznavanje problema, a zatim i ulaganje u istraživanje i razvoj kako bi se osiguralo da se ovakvi problemi ne ponavljaju. Samo kroz transparentnost, inovaciju i stvarnu posvećenost ekološkoj održivosti Nissan može ponovno stvoriti povjerenje kod svojih kupaca i ponovno postati lider u održivoj mobilnosti.
f) Zaključak – Od pionira do ekološkog problematičara:
Nissan, nekoć pionir električne revolucije, suočava se s krizom koja pogađa srž njegovih ekoloških ambicija. Da bi ponovno stekao povjerenje i svoj ekološki pedigre, Nissan mora djelovati brzo i odlučno kako bi riješio ove probleme, pružajući svojim korisnicima i planeti rješenje koje zaslužuju.
6. Potrebna Akcija
a) Opoziv svih vozila i temeljito ispitivanje: Očito je da postoji ozbiljna i potencijalno opasna tvornička greška sa sustavom baterija Nissan Leaf. Uzimajući u obzir sigurnosne rizike, preporučuje se hitan opoziv svih pogođenih modela.
b) Dugoročna rješenja i odgovornost proizvođača: Osim trenutnih ispravaka, Nissan mora preispitati svoj pristup dizajniranju i proizvodnji baterijskih sustava. Investiranje u istraživanje i razvoj kvalitetnijih baterijskih rješenja neophodno je kako bi se osigurala sigurnost i pouzdanost budućih modela.
c) Zahtjev za transparentnost: U svjetlu ovih problema, potrebna je veća transparentnost od strane tvrtke Nissan prema korisnicima i javnosti. To uključuje otvoreno priznavanje problema, redovite ažuriranja o koracima koje tvrtka poduzima da ih riješi, kao i planove za sprječavanje sličnih problema u budućnosti.
Ovim elaboratom se potvrđuje ozbiljnost problema s baterijama u Nissan Leaf vozilima i naglašava potreba za hitnom intervencijom kako bi se osigurala sigurnost korisnika i očuvala reputacija tvrtke Nissan.
OEM Price : 44000€ EVC: 400€ Part number: 295B05SH6E, 295B05SH0A, 295B95SH0A, 293405SH2C Errors: P31E7-00, P0AA6-1A HV battery voltage system isolation
Challenges with the EQV Electric Motor: Insights and Observations
Over the past decade, experiences with vehicles under the three-pointed star emblem have highlighted recurring challenges, regardless of the type of drivetrain—be it diesel, hybrid, or electric. These challenges often stem from design oversights that can lead to serial defects, with warranty coverage that leaves owners feeling unsupported.
A well-known courier service, which has integrated several Mercedes-Benz EQV vehicles into its fleet, recently faced such issues. One of their vehicles, with only 28,000 km on the odometer, experienced an electric motor failure. Despite being under two years old, the motor was not covered under warranty, leaving the owner with an estimated repair cost of €7,500.
Diagnosis and Repair Attempts
Upon conducting a system reset, the motor briefly resumed operation but deactivated again under minimal load, triggering a familiar “anomaly” error. Diagnostics, both independently and through authorized service, confirmed the electric motor as the root cause.
Dismantling the motor revealed its considerable size and weight—over 250 kilograms—including its steel housing. Despite its weight, the motor’s power output of 80 kW seems insufficient for a vehicle with a mass of 3,200 kg, raising concerns about underengineering for this specific application.
Upon inspection of the drive unit, which is reportedly manufactured by ZF in Serbia, coolant leakage was discovered within the stator. The cooling system, using antifreeze similar to early Tesla Model S designs, showed evidence of glycol entering the stator. Thermal expansion appeared to have cracked the insulation on the windings, leading to a short circuit and localized burning of one phase. Fortunately, the inverter remained undamaged.
Parking Lock Design and Its Impact
One of the more notable design challenges lies in the parking lock mechanism integrated into the electric motor. Each time the vehicle is parked and the parking function is engaged, even minor wheel movement causes the rotor to spin approximately nine times faster. Simultaneously, the parking lock engages, violently halting the rotor. This repeated action can lead to a cascade of issues:
Bearing damage in the differential where the lock engages.
Failure of the bearing at the opposite end of the rotor, compromising the coolant seal and allowing antifreeze leakage.
Despite having sensors capable of preventing this scenario, the system lacks the necessary safeguards to disable the parking lock when wheel movement is detected. Alternative solutions, such as an electronic parking brake, could mitigate these issues.
Insights and Recommendations
The EQV’s motor design raises questions about its long-term reliability, particularly in heavy vehicles. While other vehicles like the Renault Zoe or Smart use similar systems, the EQV’s mass amplifies these challenges. For owners of such vehicles, a key recommendation is to avoid engaging the parking lock while the vehicle is in motion. Instead, manually apply the brake before shifting into the parking mode to prevent potential damage.
For those considering an electric vehicle, opting for models with separate electronic parking brakes, rather than integrated parking lock systems, may offer longer motor lifespan and reduced maintenance risks.
Local Solutions and Opportunities
One positive aspect of electrification is the opportunity to support local economies and craftsmanship. In this case, the restoration, analysis, and parts procurement for the motor repair were completed within a 2-kilometer radius of the workshop, showcasing the potential for localized repair ecosystems to thrive outside the traditional fossil fuel industry’s monopoly.
Warranty Limitations
In this instance, the electric motor’s warranty, limited to two years, was a key barrier to cost-effective repair. For fleet operators and individual owners alike, understanding the scope of warranty coverage is crucial when investing in electric vehicles.
HRVATSKI: Izazovi s električnim motorom EQV: Uvidi i preporuke
Posljednjih deset godina iskustva s vozilima pod znakom trokrake zvijezde ukazala su na ponavljajuće izazove, bez obzira na vrstu pogonskog sustava – bio to dizel, hibrid ili električni. Ti izazovi često proizlaze iz nedostataka u dizajnu koji mogu dovesti do serijskih kvarova, dok pokriće jamstva često ostavlja vlasnike bez podrške.
Jedna poznata kurirska služba, koja je u svoju flotu uvrstila nekoliko Mercedes-Benz EQV vozila, nedavno se suočila s ovakvim problemima. Jedno od njihovih vozila, s prijeđenih samo 28.000 km, doživjelo je kvar električnog motora. Iako je vozilo staro manje od dvije godine, motor nije bio pokriven jamstvom, što je vlasnika suočilo s troškom popravka od procijenjenih 7.500 €.
Dijagnoza i pokušaji popravka
Tijekom resetiranja sustava, motor je nakratko ponovno proradio, ali se ubrzo deaktivirao pod minimalnim opterećenjem, prikazujući poznatu grešku “anomalia”. Dijagnostika, provedena neovisno i u ovlaštenom servisu, potvrdila je da je uzrok problema električni motor.
Rastavljanje motora otkrilo je njegovu značajnu veličinu i težinu – preko 250 kilograma, uključujući čelični okvir. Unatoč težini, snaga motora od 80 kW čini se nedovoljnom za vozilo mase 3.200 kg, što dovodi u pitanje prilagođenost dizajna ovom specifičnom modelu.
Pregled pogonske jedinice, za koju se navodi da je proizvedena u ZF tvornici u Srbiji, otkrio je curenje rashladne tekućine unutar statora. Sustav hlađenja, koji koristi antifriz, sličan je dizajnu ranih Tesla Model S vozila, no u ovom slučaju, glikol je prodro u stator. Toplinska ekspanzija uzrokovala je pucanje izolacije na namotajima, što je dovelo do kratkog spoja i izgaranja jednog dijela faze. Srećom, inverter nije oštećen.
Dizajn mehanizma zaključavanja i njegov utjecaj
Jedan od značajnijih problema dizajna odnosi se na mehanizam zaključavanja u parkirnom položaju, koji je integriran u električni motor. Svaki put kada se vozilo parkira i aktivira parkirna funkcija, čak i minimalno kretanje kotača uzrokuje da se rotor okrene devet puta brže. Istovremeno, mehanizam zaključavanja nasilno zaustavlja rotor. Ovo ponavljano djelovanje može dovesti do kaskadnih problema:
Oštećenja ležaja diferencijala na mjestu gdje se zaključavanje aktivira.
Kvara ležaja na suprotnom kraju rotora, što ugrožava brtvu rashladne tekućine i uzrokuje curenje antifriza.
Iako sustav ima senzore koji bi mogli spriječiti ovu situaciju, nedostaju potrebne zaštite kako bi se deaktiviralo zaključavanje kada je detektirano kretanje kotača. Alternativna rješenja, poput električne parkirne kočnice, mogla bi ublažiti ove probleme.
Uvidi i preporuke
Dizajn motora EQV-a postavlja pitanja o njegovoj dugoročnoj pouzdanosti, posebno kod težih vozila. Dok drugi automobili poput Renault Zoe ili Smart koriste slične sustave, masa EQV-a dodatno pojačava ove izazove. Za vlasnike takvih vozila, ključna preporuka je izbjegavati aktiviranje zaključavanja dok je vozilo u pokretu. Umjesto toga, ručno aktivirajte kočnicu prije prebacivanja u parkirni položaj kako biste spriječili potencijalna oštećenja.
Za one koji razmatraju kupnju električnog vozila, preporučuje se odabir modela s odvojenim elektronskim parkirnim kočnicama, umjesto integriranih sustava zaključavanja, jer oni mogu osigurati dulji vijek trajanja motora i smanjiti rizik od skupih popravaka.
Lokalna rješenja i prilike
Jedan od pozitivnih aspekata elektrifikacije je prilika za podršku lokalnim gospodarstvima i obrtima. U ovom slučaju, obnova, analiza i nabava dijelova za popravak motora obavljeni su u radijusu od 2 kilometra od radionice, što pokazuje potencijal za razvoj lokalnih ekosustava popravaka izvan monopola fosilne industrije.
Ograničenja jamstva
U ovom slučaju, jamstvo na električni motor, ograničeno na dvije godine, pokazalo se ključnom preprekom za isplativ popravak. Za upravitelje flota i pojedine vlasnike, razumijevanje opsega jamstvenog pokrića ključno je pri ulaganju u električna vozila.
Part number: A4473402401, A4479004711, A4479013905, LE6000, A4473407600, 601-20857-00, 634-05058-03, 3840000462, M4160A1288, A4473400501, 7899019100, 2229021821, 7899045800, Errors: P2C8500, Electric motor making noise, Warranty: declined (2years)
Processor: TC277T OEM Price: 7500€ EV Clinic Price: 2500-3500€
The gearbox that is praised so much in European mithology but behind the curtain is essentially a financial anchor for owners, because at the price of the authorized service, it is almost more expensive than the EV battery, not counting the entire drive motor + gearbox, and if you were to calculate the full price of ENGINE + GEARBOX, it would be over 14,000e. Out of some 500-600 pieces that we repaired, we observed one definite pattern of recurring defects, popularly known as “never nothing fails”. It’s “never nothing” when your non-solderable aluminum wire breaks inside TCU, which was designed to break and costs you 2300 euros, which the owner has no money to pay. Because “electric power” does not go 24,000 km with one reservoir. In addition to broken wires, lines, broken processor TC1796 (label can be seen under a microscope), melting of the power bus voltage supply lines, defect of the three-phase oil pump, output to the valves, valves, hydraulic block, position sensor, fork in the gearbox, gears, clutch also according to mythology homos balkanikus it never breaks down, just because it never breaks down we never laser welded those wires every day, I swear.. never. The error is on all DQ200 series and everything ends very quickly in “never nothing failed” state, some won’t start at 50000km and some won’t start at 150000km. It depends on how much you praise it and how many times a day you change the oil according to ancient mythology. About 10 million vehicles were sold, this news did not end up in the media because the steering wheel did not come off on only one example.
HRVATSKI
Mjenjač koji toliko nahvaljen iza zastora je u biti financijsko sidro, jer je po cijeni ovlaštenog servisa skoro skuplji od baterije EV ne računajuci cijeli pogon motor+mjenjač a kad bi racunali punu cijenu MOTOR + MJENJAC bila bi preko 14000e. Od nekih 500-600 komada koje smo reparirali upratili smo jedan definitivan uzorak ponavljajucih defekata, u narodu poznati kao “nikad ništa”. To nikad ništa je kad ti pukne žičica od aluminija koja se ne lemi, koja je osmisljena da pukne i da vas ona košta 2300 eur, koje vlasnik nema za platiti. Jer “ebeš struju” ne ide na kateter 24000km sa jednim rezervarom. Osim pucanja žica, vodova, pucanja procesora TC1796 (pod mikroskopom se vidi label), topljenja sabirnice napajanja, defekta trofazne uljne pumpe, izlaza na ventile, ventila, hidraulickog bloka, senzora pozicije, vilica u mjenjacu, zubcanika, kuplunga takodjer to se po mitologiji homos balkanikus nikad ne kvari, kak se to nikad ne kvari tako ni mi nikad svaki dan ne varimo laserksi te žice. Greska je na svim serijama DQ200 i sve vrlo brzo završe “nikad ništa”, neke nece na 50000km a neke tek nece na 150000km. Ovisi koliko ga nahvališ i koliko dnevno puta mjenjaš ulje po drevnoj mitologiji. Vozila je zahvećenih oko 10 miliona, ta vijesti nije završila u medijima jer se nije odšarafio volan samo na jednom specimenu. Takodjer valja spomenuti da je ovo proizvod tvornice dječijih bolesti na Dizel Benzin vozilima, zvana Temic. Takodjer ovaj smo napravili sa dodatnim MAX popustom s obzirom da je u pitanju neki penzioner, budu platili hybridaši razliku.
OEM Price for factory defect: 2350eur (incl Tax) EVC* -“I swear it never fails” 800euro -“ICE is swallowing all my money” 300euro
P0562 16946 System voltage, voltage too low P0841 17225 Sensor / pressure switch transmission fluid pressure A, Unlikely signal P1604 18012 Control module defective P177F Hydraulic pump system, supply voltage too low P17BF Hydraulic pump system, overload protection P1895 18303 Functional limitation due to pressure drop P189C Functional limitation due to insufficient pressure U0101 28773 No communication with TCM P173A Position sensor 1 for Gear Selector, unlikely signal P173B Position sensor 2 for Gear Selector, unlikely signal P173C Position sensor 3 for Gear Selector, unlikely signal P173D
The Evolution of Challenges in the EU Automotive Industry
If you’re curious about the factors contributing to the challenges within the EU car industry, this article explores some key trends and issues. While advancements in automotive technology have been groundbreaking, concerns have emerged over practices that may not always prioritize the consumer’s best interests.
A History of Design Controversies
Over the years, some vehicle components and systems have been criticized for appearing to be engineered with predetermined lifespans. These “programmed faults,” as some refer to them, range from mechanical to electronic systems and have become a recurring theme in discussions about reliability and repair costs.
For instance, early examples include the SBC (Sensotronic Brake Control) system on the W211 Mercedes-Benz. This system had a built-in counter limiting its use to approximately 200,000 braking applications. Once this limit was reached, the system would enter a fault state, requiring a replacement at significant cost, even if the unit was otherwise fully functional.
Modern Complexities: Exponential Growth of Issues
Over time, the complexity of such systems has grown, encompassing a broader range of vehicle components:
Steering Column Electronics (SCCM): Faults in these systems can immobilize the vehicle.
Dual-Clutch Transmissions and Sensors: Wear-related faults in these systems often lead to significant repair costs.
Battery Management Systems (BMS): In some electric vehicles, even minor accidents can trigger fault codes that render a perfectly functional battery unusable.
Electric Vehicles: A New Frontier of Challenges
The rise of electric vehicles (EVs) has brought about a new set of concerns. A recurring issue involves batteries being deactivated following minor accidents, even when airbags fail to deploy. For example, Mercedes-Benz EQV owners have reported that a minor impact resulted in a fault code deactivating the battery, with no straightforward method for reactivation. This leaves consumers with no choice but to replace the battery at a staggering cost—reportedly as high as €75,000 for the EQV.
The issue appears to stem from one-time programming errors embedded in the Battery Management System. These errors, designed without service access or the ability to reset through traditional diagnostic tools, have led to frustration among owners and independent repair specialists alike. Advanced technical methods, such as direct access to the processor (BDM), are often the only solution, raising ethical and consumer protection concerns.
Broader Implications for Consumers and Insurers
These issues are not only frustrating for vehicle owners but also place a burden on insurers. Battery replacements triggered by software faults are leading to increased claims, which could, in turn, result in higher insurance premiums. The media often frames these challenges as EV-specific failures, overshadowing the systemic design flaws that affect both traditional and electric vehicles.
Recommendations for Consumers
Given the prevalence of these challenges across various brands and models, it is essential for consumers to conduct thorough research before purchasing. In particular:
Mercedes-Benz EV Models: Recent cases have highlighted recurring issues across EQC, EQB, EQA, and hybrid series.
Independent Repair Costs: Repairs for some EVs may involve significant labor and technical expertise, leading to higher costs for consumers.
At EV Clinic, we are continually developing solutions for these challenges but must also adapt our pricing models to reflect the complexities involved. For certain EV models, repair prices have been adjusted to reflect the increased technical demands and discourage reliance on problematic platforms.
Conclusion
The automotive industry’s advancements have brought many benefits, but they have also introduced complexities that can sometimes work against the consumer. It is crucial for manufacturers, policymakers, and independent repair specialists to collaborate in addressing these challenges, ensuring transparency and fair treatment for vehicle owners. By raising awareness, we aim to promote a balanced conversation about the future of automotive technology and consumer rights.
HRVATSKI:
Razvoj izazova u automobilskoj industriji EU-a
Ako vas zanima što je dovelo do trenutnih izazova u automobilskoj industriji EU-a, ovaj članak istražuje ključne trendove i probleme. Iako su tehnološka dostignuća u automobilizmu bila revolucionarna, pojavile su se zabrinutosti vezane uz prakse koje možda nisu uvijek u najboljem interesu potrošača.
Povijest dizajnerskih kontroverzi
Kroz godine, pojedine komponente i sustavi vozila kritizirani su zbog naizgled programirane ograničene trajnosti. Ovi “programirani kvarovi”, kako ih neki nazivaju, protežu se od mehaničkih do elektroničkih sustava i postali su česta tema u raspravama o pouzdanosti i troškovima popravaka.
Primjer iz ranijih godina je SBC (Sensotronic Brake Control) sustav na Mercedes-Benz W211 modelima. Ovaj sustav imao je ugrađeni brojač koji je ograničavao njegovu uporabu na otprilike 200.000 kočenja. Kad bi taj prag bio dosegnut, sustav bi ulazio u stanje kvara, zahtijevajući zamjenu po značajnom trošku, čak i ako je jedinica bila potpuno funkcionalna.
Moderni izazovi: Eksponencijalni rast problema
Tijekom vremena, složenost ovih sustava je rasla, obuhvaćajući širi spektar komponenti vozila:
Elektronika upravljačkog stupa (SCCM): Kvarovi na ovim sustavima mogu onemogućiti vozilo.
Mjenjači s dvije spojke i senzori: Kvarovi povezani s trošenjem često uzrokuju značajne troškove popravaka.
Sustavi upravljanja baterijom (BMS): Kod nekih električnih vozila, čak i manji sudari mogu aktivirati kodove kvara koji onemogućuju potpuno funkcionalnu bateriju.
Električna vozila: Novi izazovi
Pojava električnih vozila (EV) donijela je nove zabrinutosti. Česti problem uključuje deaktivaciju baterija nakon manjih sudara, čak i kada zračni jastuci nisu aktivirani. Na primjer, vlasnici Mercedes-Benz EQV modela prijavili su da je manji sudar rezultirao kodom kvara koji je deaktivirao bateriju, bez jednostavne metode za ponovnu aktivaciju. To ostavlja potrošače bez izbora osim zamjene baterije po izuzetno visokoj cijeni — navodno čak 75.000 eura za EQV.
Problem leži u greškama jednokratnog programiranja ugrađenim u sustav upravljanja baterijom. Te greške, dizajnirane bez servisnog pristupa ili mogućnosti resetiranja putem tradicionalnih dijagnostičkih alata, izazivaju frustracije kod vlasnika i nezavisnih servisera. Napredne tehničke metode, poput izravnog pristupa procesoru (BDM), često su jedino rješenje, što otvara etička pitanja i pitanja zaštite potrošača.
Šire implikacije za potrošače i osiguravatelje
Ovi problemi nisu samo frustrirajući za vlasnike vozila, već i opterećuju osiguravatelje. Zamjene baterija izazvane softverskim kvarovima dovode do povećanih zahtjeva za naknadom štete, što bi moglo rezultirati višim premijama osiguranja. Mediji često prikazuju ove izazove kao specifične za EV, zasjenjujući sustavne dizajnerske nedostatke koji utječu i na tradicionalna i na električna vozila.
Preporuke za potrošače
S obzirom na prevalenciju ovih izazova na različitim markama i modelima, važno je da potrošači detaljno istraže prije kupnje. Posebno:
Mercedes-Benz EV modeli: Nedavni slučajevi istaknuli su ponavljajuće probleme kod EQC, EQB, EQA i hibridnih serija.
Troškovi nezavisnih popravaka: Popravci za određena EV vozila mogu uključivati značajan rad i tehničku stručnost, što rezultira višim troškovima za potrošače.
U EV Clinic-u kontinuirano razvijamo rješenja za ove izazove, ali moramo prilagoditi naše cjenovne modele kako bismo odražavali složenost uključenu u ove popravke. Za određene EV modele, cijene popravaka su prilagođene kako bi odražavale povećane tehničke zahtjeve i obeshrabrile oslanjanje na problematične platforme.
Zaključak
Napredak u automobilskoj industriji donio je mnoge prednosti, ali je također uveo složenosti koje ponekad djeluju protiv interesa potrošača. Ključno je da proizvođači, zakonodavci i nezavisni serviseri surađuju u rješavanju ovih izazova, osiguravajući transparentnost i pravedan tretman za vlasnike vozila. Podizanjem svijesti nastojimo potaknuti uravnoteženu raspravu o budućnosti automobilske tehnologije i pravima potrošača.
Part number: A4473402301, A4479020210, A4479043200, A4479015406 Battery: 100kWh CATL 285Ah Processor: TC275 Infineon locked Error: P0CA700 The discharge current of the high-voltage battery… OEM repair: approx. €75,000 EVC: €10,000 Credits: Askold
What is OBC? There is no simpler device in the world that is impossible to explain to EV users and Plug-sponsor-in Hybrids. OBC stands for ON BOARD CHARGER. Its location is always in the vehicle and it has the task of converting the current from the “pole” into current for the “accumulator”, it converts AC alternating current into DC 400V direct current, because the battery is a DC source. Just as a cell phone is a DC 3.7V source and is charged with an OBC adapter in the socket, so too is an EV charged from any raw power plant via an OBC integrated rectifier. The EV has that adapter built into the vehicle so that it can charge at ANY AC three-phase/single-phase outlet. It is the only sensitive “no servicing at all I swear ” module on EV but mostly on Hybrids. The failure is mostly caused by an external influence such as an unstable sine wave source, interference, large consumers on a remote network, a short circuit of another consumer in the same AC network, overheating of the socket lines, repeated tripping of the fuse, forced shutdown of charging, etc. While the DC city charging station is essentially a station that it has 5-6 OBC rectifiers (that’s why it’s huge) of 15 kilos each and its task is to charge the battery with already rectified DC current from the AC network. Everything should be clear to everyone, because if an EV had all those OBCs for fast charging, it would be 200-400 kilos heavier. From the example in the picture, a GEN3 OBC 17KW from Tesla Model X arrived from Germany, also used on the Model S from 2016 to 2021. One of the most durable, with a damaged rectifier of phases L1 and L3, 4 fuses of 45 euros each and several protective IGBTs and Diodes ( means AC input). And the failure of the OBC caused a short circuit of another consumer on the network of the same facility, a Mercedes Plug-sponsor-in hybrid was connected on which its defective OBC tripped all the fuses and damaged this OBC on the Tesla. Taking out the L1 and L3 PCBs is like giving birth to the truth from politicians. All 15 kilos of matter need to be well preheated, in order to desolder 300 VIAs and Pins, a few hours of work and tricky skilled disassembling with a few hidden wires and sensors. We have 5-6 pieces of OBC ready and 1-2 for parts and to prevent “it worked when I arrived”. On some vehicles, this is an extremely expensive component, I will cite a few examples: VW Idx 1200EUR, Tesla 2500EURO, Model 3/Y 900eur, Ion Zero 7000EUR, Mercedes Smart 5500-8000, Nissan Leaf 7500, BMW Hybrid 1500-3500, Renault Hybrid 4000 -6000 EUR, Renault Zoe 800-1500 EUR, VW Audi Hybrid 4000-5000 EUR.
Sto je OBC? Ne postoji na svijetu jednostavnijeg uredjaja kojeg je nemoguće objasniti korisnicima EV i Plug-sponzor-in Hybridima. OBC je skraćenica za ON BOARD CHARGER. Negova je lokacija uvjek u vozilu i ima zadatak da struju sa “bandere” pretvori u struju za “akumulatora”, znači da pretvori AC naizmjeničnu u DC 400V istosmjernu, jer je baterija DC izvor. Kao što je mobitel DC 3.7V izvor i puni se sa OBC adatperom na uticnici tako se i EV puni sa bilo koje sirove elektrane putem OBC integrirano ispravljača. EV taj adapter ima ugradjen u vozilo da bi mogao puniti na SVAKOJ AC trofaznoj/jednofaznoj utičnici. To je jedan jedini osjetljivi “nikad ništa materemi” modul na svakom EV. Kvar je većinom izazvan vanjskim utjecajem tipa nestabilan sinus izvora, smetnje, veliki potrošači na udaljenoj mreži, kratak spoj drugog potrošača u mreži, pregrijavanje vodova utičnice, ponavljajuce iskakanje osigurača, nasilno gašenje punjenja itd. Dok je DC gradska punionica u biti stanica koja u sebi ima 5-6 OBC ispravljača (zato i jeste ogromna) od po 15 kila i njen je zadatak da bateriju puni već ispravljenom DC strujom iz AC mreže. Svima treba biti jasno sve, jer da bi EV imao sve te OBC za brze punjenje bio bi tezi za 200-400 kila. Iz primjera sa slike stigao je iz Njemačke GEN3 OBC 17KW sa Tesle Model X, koristen i na Model S od 2016 do 2021. Jedan od najizdrzljivijih kojemu je oštećen ispravljač faze L1 i L3, 4 osigurača od po 45eura i nekoliko zastitnih IGBT i Dioda (znaci AC ulaz). A kvar OBC je uzrokovao kratak spoj drugog potrošača na mreži istog objekta, spojen je neki Mercedes Plug-sponzor-in hybrid na kojem je njegov neispravan OBC poizbacivao sve osigurace i ostetio ovaj OBC na Tesli. Vađenje L1 i L3 PCB-a je kao porađanje istine iz političara. Svih 15 kila materije treba dobro predgrijati, da bi odlotao 300 VIA i Pinova, nekoliko sati posla i pipanja da ne potrgaš nekoliko skrivenih žica i senzora. Mi se većinom detaljno pripremimo kao za iskrcavanje na normandiju pa imamo 5-6 komada OBC spremnih i 1-2 za dijelove i da spriječimo “to je radlo kad sam dotro”. Na nekim vozilima ovo je iznimno skupa komponenta, navest cu par primjera: VW 1200EUR, Tesla 2500EURO, Model 3/Y 900eur, Ion Zero 7000 EUR, Mercedes Smart 5500-8000, Nissan Leaf 7500, BMW Hybrid 1500-3500, Renault Hybrid 4000-6000 Eur, Renault Zoe 800-1500eur, VW Audi Hybrid 4000-5000 eur.
🔋 Common Mild Hybrid Failure – Hidden Costs Behind the “Green” Badge 🔋
We’ve written about this before, but it’s time to repeat it – the issues with Mild Hybrid systems continue to surface, exposing poor engineering hidden behind a “sustainable” label.
This time, it’s not the infamous €2,000 alternator that fails every summer due to poor thermal management and 90°C glycol cooling. No – today, it’s the return of the 48V battery failure.
If you’ve ever heard the line: “It was working when I parked, not my problem” – you’re not alone. In many cases, while technicians wait for parts or work on the combustion engine side of the vehicle, the hybrid battery silently discharges itself. The system is designed so that when the 12V supply is disconnected, the 48V battery enters a “scrap mode” – deep self-discharge, rendering itself permanently locked. This isn’t just poor design; it’s systemic exploitation.
Even though the lithium cells are still at a safe 3.3V and completely functional, they are declared unusable, destined for the shredder – wasting resources, electricity, and adding unnecessary replacement costs.
We’ve seen similar designs in other European manufacturers – Mercedes included. The result? Independent repair shops are forced to absorb the blame and the financial burden for a defect caused by poor OEM design.
You don’t need to sell narcotics to turn a profit – just engineer a subscription-like trap disguised as advanced technology. Slap on a “Hybrid” or “Clean Diesel” badge, and the customer becomes a lifetime subscriber to their own car.
As always, mainstream media stays silent on these issues. Real information comes only after it’s too late.
👉 Our advice? Either go fully electric or stick to a well-built internal combustion engine. Mild hybrid? High risk, low reward.
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🔋 Česta greška kod Mild Hybrida – Skriveni troškovi iza “zelene” etikete 🔋
Već smo pisali o ovome, ali očito moramo ponovo – problemi s Mild Hybrid sustavima i dalje izlaze na vidjelo, otkrivajući lošu tehniku maskiranu kao “održiva” rješenja.
Ovaj put nije riječ o čuvenom alternatoru od 2000 eura koji redovno otkaže svako ljeto zbog lošeg hlađenja glikolom na 90 stupnjeva. Sada je opet u igri 48V akumulator.
Ako ste ikada čuli rečenicu: “Radilo je kad sam parkirao, mene to ne zanima” – niste jedini. U mnogim slučajevima, dok se čekaju dijelovi ili se sanira kvar na motoru s unutarnjim izgaranjem, hibridna baterija se sama isprazni. Sustav je dizajniran tako da u trenutku kad nema napona na 12V sustavu, 48V baterija ulazi u tzv. “AUTOOTPAD” način rada – duboko samopražnjenje koje ju trajno zaključa. Nije riječ o grešci – to je planski izveden mehanizam.
Iako su litijeve ćelije još na sigurnih 3.3V i tehnički potpuno ispravne, sustav ih zaključava i proglašava neupotrebljivima. Rezultat: drobilica, reciklaža, novi troškovi, nepotrebno trošenje energije i resursa.
Slični slučajevi viđeni su i kod drugih proizvođača iz europske “ergele” – uključujući i Mercedes. A posljedice? Nezavisni serviseri snose odgovornost i trošak za neispravnosti koje su rezultat tvornički lošeg dizajna.
Ne trebaš dilati da bi zaradio – dovoljno je osmisliti sustav gdje kupac misli da je nešto kupio, a zapravo je postao pretplatnik na vlastiti automobil. Zalijepiš etiketu “Hybrid” ili “Clean Diesel” – i budućnost je osigurana.
Mainstream mediji ovakve teme uglavnom izbjegavaju. Kupac sazna istinu tek kad je već kasno.
👉 Naš savjet? Ili pravo električno vozilo ili dobar motor s unutarnjim izgaranjem. Mild hybrid? Previše rizika, premalo koristi.
Error: P0A7D, P0B29 Part number: 4N0915105B Processor: SPC5644BMLU OEM Audi: 1800Euro EVC: 400-1800euro *hybrid is best: o1o690 Euro
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